Review Date
September 5, 2008

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 4 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a month

Reviewed by: kjellterskelter ,  Cross Country Rider

Summary:
I have ridden this trail(read area, because there are many trails here) a couple of times now and it's by far my favorite in this Southern Oregon. It has something for everyone with experience. I found it to be technical and challenging. Pretty tight, and sometimes twisty trail, but in good shape. Looked like there were a few stunts here and there, jumps here and there, rocks and other obsticles. I look forward to exploring this trail system more. I hope this will not be considered an Illegal Trail, as I heard recently the forest service was going to crack down and destroy these kinds of trails(doesn't make a bit of sense to me???)

Recommended Route:
Park at the Wagner trailhead, and shuttle if you like, otherwise you are in for a climb on a loose gravel road.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Just explore, read the other reviews for more great info.

Review Date
August 17, 2008

Overall Rating
 3 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 3 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a week

Reviewed by: drdan52000 ,  Weekend Warrior

Summary:
The trail is very steep right at the beginning and lots of tech stuff going on for the first 1/2 mile of the trail than it turn into a very good ride.
Starts out as a single track and goes to logging road than back to a single track.
Some logging going in the area at this time, but should be out of there by fall.
Some what of a driving up,(9+ miles) but worth the new ride.

Recommended Route:
Parking at Wagon butt trail head is the good place to park if this the first time on this trail.
Go up the hill about 1/4 mile or less and you will see a steep single track on the down hill side of the road.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Applegate lake
Lost Creek Lake
Elk Lane

Review Date
August 27, 2007

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 3 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Every few months

Reviewed by: honsing ,  Cross Country Rider

Summary:
This place is truly a hidden gem. Single trek all the way until you have to climb back out (ouch!), but well worth it. I did not see a soul here when I rode this in late August one Saturday. Lots of work done here by some mtn bike entheusiasts. Big bridges, jumps, arches. Some very tight hairpin turns. As far as beauty, this place is Nirvana! Amazing how the loggers have shredded the Siskyous and left this place intact. I'm afraid to reveal too much as this place may go the way of the legendary Time Warp which was decommisioned by the forest service as an illegal trail.

Review Date
April 7, 2007

Overall Rating
 4 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 3 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 3 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Ridden Once

Reviewed by: fpepin ,  Cross Country Rider

Summary:
See the first post for this trail for a desc. Just rode it for the first time, and it was awesome! As advertised...Great climb-to-single-track ratio, a few bridges and creek crossings, a few technical sections.

I will definitely go back for more!

Recommended Route:
Follow the directions above.

Review Date
July 3, 2005

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 5 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a year

Visitors rate this review
5.00 of 5, 1 votes

Reviewed by: Netbike ,  Racer

Summary:
This is one of the best trail systems in Oregon. It has everything. If you start at the middle parking spot, you climb about 3 miles (half hour)than you mostly desend for about 2 hours. Theres little jumps, switch backs long decends. You ride through old grouth and through logged area's. I have even seen a bear in there. At the end of the ride you climb back up to the car, about half an hour. Well worth checking out these trails. The only thing I recomend is that you bring some one who know the system for the first time through. Ith would be really easy to take a wrong trail and end up at the bottom and miss some great riding