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Trail off Kasson Rd.

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Latitude
43.023600091997906
Longitude
-76.24837875366211
Trail Directions
From West Genesee in Camillus Take Kasson Road south for about 1 mile. There is a little area to park and drop in the trail.
Trail Length
Many miles
Trail Level
Intermediate
Trail Type
Singletrack
City/County
Camillus
   


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Review Date
August 25, 2016

Overall Rating
 4 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 2 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 2 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a month

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Reviewed by: JoeJoe ,  Weekend Warrior

Summary:
First of all I haven't mountain biked in years, but I trail run and mtb trails around here are great for that. Just today I parked at the Kasson Rd trailhead and on my return was told by "Bob" that I had parked on private property. Waiting for me on my windshield was a note informing me that I had parked on private property and in the future should park on the side of the road.

There are no Posted signs nor are there any Notice signs. There is simply no indication of the parking area being privately owned. This afternoon I called, in order, 1) the Town of Camillus Dept of Parks and Rec; 2) the Town of Onondaga Dept of Parks and Rec; 3) the Onondaga County Dept of Parks and Rec; and 4) the Camillus Police Dept.

To each person with whom I spoke II related the above details and none of them know the status of the land. Finally I spoke with Officer Isaac at the Onondaga County Sheriff's Office. He knew of the trailhead and informed that it is on County owned land, There is no way he can have your vehicle towed from the lot because there is no way he can prove the land is his.

My own research shows that the trailhead sits on the old Auburn and Syracuse Electric Roadroad right-of-way. That train ceased operation in 1930 (amazing what 86 years of change can do) but the Onondaga County retains possession of the right-of-way. Apparently in 2001, Onondaga County entered into an annual rental agreement with Sun Oil Pipeline for a pipeline along right of way. as far I as can tell the agreement was still in effect as of 2009, but now?

Furthermore, a review of the tax records for the surrounding properties yields no one named Bob, Bobby, Robert or any permutation therein. Smells of squatters' rights to me.



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Review Date
March 23, 2010

Overall Rating
 3 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 3 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 3 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Ridden Once

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Reviewed by: Glenn R ,  Weekend Warrior

Summary:
Any recent updates on trespassing with this area. You can also read the reviews from Split Rock on this trail search page. There supposedly the new land owner gives a brief synopsis of his B.S., I was instructed that he does not own all the land up there put I will pull the tax maps and reply on what I find.



Comments
cnymike (06/24/2011)
I called the Camillus Police Dept, Onondaga County Sheriff, the NYS DEC and spoke to two different law enforcement officers and a few other people along the way. None of them gave me any indication that it was explicity illegal to ride in Split Rock Quarry. There are some areas that are private property but I was told that if those areas are not clearly marked as such, it is unlikely that you could be ticketed. NY State owns a big chunk of that land and it is not posted, at least not on the Kasson Rd trailhead.

A visit to ongov.net and a look at the property tax information maps should indicate what areas are owned by who.
cnymike (06/24/2011)
Here is a link to the NY tax map showing that it is State Owner "vacant land located in commercial area"

http://ocfintax.ongov.net/livelink/view.aspx?coord=590325,1102385

The Split Rock Quarry is located in Onondaga County, Town of Onondaga
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Review Date
April 23, 2008

Overall Rating
 4 of 5

Aerobic Difficulty
 3 of 5

Technical Difficulty
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a week

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5.00 of 5, 1.00 votes

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Reviewed by: alkfdsgfkjb ,  Downhiller

Summary:
Its a really fun trail to ride, the only problem is that you come across a few sketch balls now an then
For example my friend and i were stopped my a man, and he said he was calling the cops on us for riding in his walking path?????doesn't make sense to me when its all state land, he doesn't own it. well other than that there are some great downhill parts. over the years tough atv's and dirt bikes have torn the trails up. i personally like to ride the dark trail, what me and my friends call it. other than the landfill, garbage, and beer bottles it is a decent place to mountain bike.

Recommended Route:
i ride on the kasson road entrance



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Review Date
June 23, 2003

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a month

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Reviewed by: Gordon Campbell , from Camillus, NY

Summary:
Since I last wrote, I have emerged from my situation fairly unscathed ( but not without a price!). I was handed down an ACD ( adjournment in contemplation of dismissal) for six months and ordered to pay restitution to the Sheriff's Dept. for 1 hr's worth of flight fuel for AIR-1. NOT CHEAP!!! Don't forget attorney's fees. Here's what i'm saying: In the case of this trail and the rest of the quarry, what was once some seriously enjoyable riding has become a full-blown hassle. Until further notice: Steer clear of the entire Split Rock quarry!! It falls on two different jurisdictions ( OCSD and Camillus P.D. ). Believe me when I tell you that, in the end, one of them will be more than happy to ticket or arrest you. I hope the day will come when we can use this trail system again. It's a shame it had to come to this.

Recommended Route:
Trail can be reached by taking Rt. 5 (West Genesee St.) westbound to Kasson Rd. Left onto Kasson Rd. Aprox. 1/2 mile up on left. Do opposite from Howlett Hill Rd.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
None at this time. Sorry.



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Review Date
October 28, 2002

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a week

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5.00 of 5, 1.00 votes

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Reviewed by: Gordon C. , from Camillus, N.Y.

Summary:
I recently was ticketed for tresspassing on land that has been state land for years.I grew up in the "Gulf" and have walked, rode and hunted the old quarry for my entire life. Things are just now becoming problematic up there. With inexperienced riders getting hurt and hunters/target shooters unfamiliar with the land discharging firearms too close to residential areas, the Onondaga County Sheriff's Department has been forced to patrol the area and make such arrests if deemed necessary.It has recently come to my attention that the D.E.C. owns a chunk of land in here as well. It was once all deemed "forever wild" by the proper authorities, but that is now obviously a farce.Land is changing hands without warning and owners seem too distracted to hang "POSTED" signs to inform us properly. I will do my best as a native of this area to clean up this mess with those those it concerns (ie. getting signs put up to say what is private and what is state) so we will all know where we stand on this situation.I'll update as soon as I can.Good luck and be careful!

Recommended Route:
The Kasson Rd. entrance is now private property!!! Don't use it!!! I had to find out the hard way. The entrance at the end of Onondaga Blvd. is suitable for ATV and mountain bike use as well as excellent foot trails. No vehicle access. Another is Ottman Rd. It can be reached by same directions Corey B. gave above. A reminder to all:The land adjacent to Smorol Rd. on the corner of Split Rock and Cedervale Rd's has been privately purchased as well.This includes Lost Lake. Avoid this, too!



Comments
SXViper (08/13/2012)
Apparently a lot has changed since you wrote this 10 years ago Gordon. We have been riding an average of 3-times a week since Christmas with no issues at all. The Kasson Road IS NOT Private Property. There are 2 -small parking lots to park in right next to the trail head. Split Rock is a fantastic place to ride.....it is Syracuse's best kept secret!
Benzie (04/21/2015)
Lets clear this up. the first five acres are private property, owned by Bob. Im not sure of his last name. but hes down there every day with his dog lucky. his parking is on the trails side and doesn't mind letting people use his trail head, just don't block his parking. the other small lot on kasson across the street is also private property but I have never had trouble parking there at all in five years. I walk my dog on these trails and also ride my wheeler, remember to use caution. almost all of these trails are single wide and blind corners everywhere, cliffs are common and rock outcrops can be found inches off trail
Benzie (04/21/2015)
Lets clear this up. the first five acres are private property, owned by Bob. Im not sure of his last name. but hes down there every day with his dog lucky. his parking is on the trails side and doesn't mind letting people use his trail head, just don't block his parking. the other small lot on kasson across the street is also private property but I have never had trouble parking there at all in five years. I walk my dog on these trails and also ride my wheeler, remember to use caution. almost all of these trails are single wide and blind corners everywhere, cliffs are common and rock outcrops can be found inches off trail
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