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911 and Alder Creek Trail

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Steep fun ST DH (advanced) or extreme DH 'pseudo-trail' / ridgeline. Car shuttle, but could be a loop by riding back up Big T, AC, BF pavement 7.5 mi. The loop climb is not recommended due to high speed motorycle traffic, narrow road shoulder in places, and blazing summertime heat. ST descent is twisty, fast and fun, with lots of switchbacks and some obstacles. Avoid skidding the trail or it will erode. Ridgeline / phone pole line could be overgrown in places, but proximity to the work camp probably keeps it reasonably clear. Ridgeline is sick DH that can be unrideable in sections depending on erosion. Ruts, rocks, drops, obstacles, and mostly crack-grinder steep. Granitic sand, but nicely ridable for those with skills. Plus, very few people know about it. Little shade, and can be hot at the bottom. Bring extra water. Recommended map: Tom Harrison Cartography - 'Angeles Front Country' (ISBN 1-877-689-41-6).
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Latitude
34.268566186749894
Longitude
-118.15452575683594
Trail Directions
Angeles Crest Hwy 2 North from I-210 / Hwy 2 junction in La Canada / Flintridge (Pasadena) CA. Or alternatively, Upper Big Tujunga Cyn Rd. 4.75mi East of Angeles Forest Hwy (access to Palmdale via Angeles Forest Hwy and Sunland/Tujunga via Big Tujunga Cyn Rd.). From La Canada: Go North on Hwy 2 about 20 mi, until just before Upper Big Tujunga Cyn Rd. You will pass Barton Flats Rd. on your left (paved, going uphill), with a big pipe gate. There should be a sign for Barton Flats - Dept of Corrections. There is a prison work camp at the top of Barton Flats Rd, but the trail starts outside of it. To park your top car, go up Barton Flats Rd. about 2 mi and park well before the entrance to the correctional camp. To drop your bottom car, or to have a shuttle driver meet you: Continue a bit farther up Angeles Crest Hwy 2, then left on Upper Big Tujunga Cyn Rd. Go down 5 miles to Alder Creek (just before the unsigned fire road on your right, and at the end of where Big T makes a long 90-degree bend to the left). You should see the trail crossing the road here. If you reach Lynx Gulch (rd. 4N18), you went too far. Look on your left (South) for a small dirt road, and the wooden phone poles coming down from the mountain (your route). Park near the arroyo (dry steam). The trail ends near where the wooden poles come down off the ridgeline, across the arroyo to the South. The main singletrack trail (Alder Creek) should be plainly visible. To access the top trailhead: At the top of Barton Flats Rd., gear up at your top car and ride the pavement West the last few hundred yards, to just outside the outer gate for the work camp. On your right (North) find the ridgeline. This is 911 (harder). Or you can take the Alder Creek Tr. ST (easier - goes the same way). Descend 3.4 mi and 2500' to the arroyo below, then cross it and climb 50' up to your bottom car and Big T Rd.
Trail Length
3.5 miles and 2500' elevation
Trail Level
Advanced
Trail Type
Singletrack
City/County
La Canada
   


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Review Date
May 17, 2001

Overall Rating
 1 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Ridden Once

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Reviewed by: Kicker , from Barstow

Summary:
This trail is impassable. I always thought that the word 'trail' meant "a clearing in the brush which allows access into the deep reaches of the wilderness." This is not the case with Alder Creek. Stay away. Then again, maybe me and the previous few reviewers are lieing to keep everyone away? Maybe it's the sickest DH run in all of Socal? There's only one true way to find out.

Recommended Route:
Downhill baby!

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Winter creek, Gab, Wilson, etc.



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Review Date
May 11, 2001

Overall Rating
 1 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Ridden Once

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Reviewed by: Sweeper

Summary:
This trail is beyond lame. Even if it were passable it would still suck. I rode it a few weeks ago as per the directions. Unquestionably the least fun I have had on a bike in a while. The entrance to 911 does not exist. It might have been there 5 years ago, but I could not find it after 25 minutes of searching. The Barley Flats trail sucks. Actually, to say it sucks is an insult to trails that merely suck. It is an all day bushwhack to get down. One section is so overgrown thata 6" crawlspace for 20 yards is the only way to pass. This goes on for the better part of a mile. The bushes are spiny and sharp. Fallen trees that require negotiating steep offtrail slopes litter the top. This entire run should take less than 15 minutes, and currently takes several hours. After the reinforced switchback the trail opens up a little. It is untechnical and uninteresting from here on out. Even if this trail were totally clear it would not be worth the hassle of shuttling. I disagree that this is a DH run. It could easily be ridden by an intermediate XC rider on a hardtail if the trail was clear. Maybe if someone carved a few gap jumps I would call it a DH trail. I contacted the ranger and told him to close the trail because it was impassable by foot or bike in its current condition. He asked me if I was volunteering to clear it, and I said hell no. It is irresponsible to post a trail in this condition on a trailguide website without having knowledge of the current state of the trail. Someone is going to get jacked.

Recommended Route:
anything else but this trail

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Big T, Wilson Rim, Chilao, Strawberry, Redbox-Switzer, Stone Canyon, Upper Merrill, Sunset, Ken Burton



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Review Date
May 10, 2001

Overall Rating
 2 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Every few months

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Reviewed by: Stripe

Summary:
Alternates between raging and sucking. Overall, trail is not much fun right now, due to damage and growth from 2 wet winters. Blocked by numerous head-high dead-fall's and overgrown patches of nasty spiney bushes. In between it's an outstanding, fast, twisty, steep, all-downhill roller coaster, with lots of rocks and rough patches, but few swtichbacks. Only adventurous/masochistic riders will enjoy it prior to clearing, and you will definitely be glad for the swim afterward, because you will have a few scratches if you dont bring armor. Can be done on a hardtail, but freeride/FS desirable. Bring extra tubes. Road still closed (no shuttle), but might open after 5/15. No phone lines at Big T as stated in trailhead description (moved underground). Note: Possible alt. route around overgrown middle section, uphill TO RIDGE on white rocks at fallen oak tree, 1 mi down from top. Then descend ridge back to trail and continue descent.

Recommended Route:
NONE AT THIS TIME: OVERGROWN SECTIONS AND BLOCKED IN SEVERAL SPOTS BY FALLEN TREES! Wait until it is cleared, and call La Canada Ranger and request it be fixed. Some recent clearing has been done, so maybe it will re-open soon. Note: This section is the Barley Flats Trail TO Alder Creek.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Big T Tr. (down).



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Review Date
March 19, 2001

Overall Rating
 5 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Once a year

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Reviewed by: Killy

Summary:
3/18/01 - BARLEY FLATS ROAD STILL CLOSED FOR THE WINTER AT ANGELES CREST HWY, AND STILL UNDER A FOOT OF PATCHY SNOW AT THE TOP. It will need another 2-4 weeks to melt enough to ride the Alder Creek Tr. or 911. The alternate trail was open, but soft and covered in forest debris, making it pretty technical. K2 is nasty overgrown on the steep top part, then it opens up and flattens out. Props to Stripe, Alder Creek is a great run that I last did years ago. I tried the full loop Sunday as a solo session on the freeride bike, but I hit a foot of snow on the upper 1 mile of Barley Flats road. I tried to push on to the top, but I ran out of time due to the snowy hike-a-bike. The snow on the trail would be too deep and soft to make Alder Creek a fun snow descent right now, even if you do the hike. The snow obscured 911, so I could not tell if it was overgrown or not. I will be back this week to run and name the alternate trail. This would be a good shuttle, unaffected by snow or the closure of Barley Flats rd. 1200' less descending than Alder Creek (1300' total descent), but still around 3 miles long. Also wider, less technical, and much less steep than Alder Creek Tr. DH or FR bike will be great! May be a bit difficult for an XC rig. I did the top 1 mile, then turned around. On my way out, I checked out the bottom 1 mile of the Alder Creek Tr. It is moist, very technical, and has narrowed a bit by a few years of growth. Will be a fantastic DH run in a month or so. Alder Creek Tr. - Advanced
Alternate Tr. - Advanced
911 - Extreme
K2 - Extreme, then Intermediate Alternate Tr. will become intermediate/advanced during the summer season, as it gets more traffic.

Recommended Route:
Per Stripe: Barley Flats rd. (2N46) 2.5mi West (up) from Angeles Crest, descending Alder Creek tr. Alternate trail begins at the Barley Flats rd / Angeles Crest hwy junction, and descends Northwest. It also ends at Big Tujunga, about 1-2 miles East (up) of where Alder Creek tr. meets Big T. This trail is unsigned, but you will know it by it's wide trailbed, and the white pipe gates that close it to vehicle traffic at the top and bottom. NOT signed no bikes. Other ridge option: Halfway up the Barley Flats rd. on the right at triangular orange 'K2' sign. Trail descends North to the barren ridge below, and eventually to Big T near the alternate trail described above. Top 200' of K2 is overgrown with nasty bushes, but then opens up. I do not recommend K2.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Alternate trail down to Big T.



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Review Date
March 15, 2001

Overall Rating
 4 of 5

Ridden Trail:
Every few months

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Reviewed by: Stripe

Summary:
Barley Flats.

Recommended Route:
OOPS, THAT SHOULD READ *BARLEY FLATS*, not Barton Flats. Sorry for the mistake in the trail directions.



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