Reviewed by: mikeb , from Sodom in the North

Summary:
we went back to pine mountain for the first time in a long time this past sunday. there were a whole BUNCH of DFL folks out there celebrating somebody's birthday. we did'nt get stoned with them, but we did watch some of them get stoned while they rested at the top of a tough climb, and some of them passed us while we were getting stoned near the outlet of the Secret Singletrack on Pine Mountain That Maybe Everybody Knows About. pine mountain, as i have told you before, can be a grim ride. the climbs are tough at times and the rocks in the trail are big. the pine mountain loop is a long ride, so you had better be prepared with food and drink, not to mention sufficient clothing to deal with the sudden changes in weather oh so common in the bay area. there is also the Secret Singletrack on Pine Mountain that i did'nt know about until one of the DFL boys told us how to find it. with respect to all of the do gooders out there and the builders of the trail and the MMWD, i will not tell anyone here where it is, but i will describe it as being quite a blast. it is very narrow and leafy, even more narrow and leafy than the JT Howell trail near china camp state park, or anything at skeggs point/el corte madera. finding and riding this trail raises my rating of the pine mountain loop from three tires to five, but again, i cannot tell you or give you any clues to where it is. by the way, if Mister DFL whose birthday it was on sunday, the 8th of december is reading this, a belated happy birthday to you. i hope you had a great time riding with all of your friends--it seems like you were when you passed me a warp speed, on a 'cross bike.

Recommended Route:
hit 'em high and kick in the nuts--then stand back and listen to how loud they wail at 'ya.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
all of them.

Reviewed by: Rich Cranium , from Teste, NV

Summary:
If yes, what time does a Thanksgiving day ride commence?

Recommended Route:
Is this the Thanksgiving Day route?

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Tamaracho, Loma Alta, Phoenix Lk, Bolinas Ridge, 777, Eldridge,

Reviewed by: MMax , from Novato

Summary:
Some tricky rocky climbs to start off with but the trail is never steep and only one climb, back out of the canyon, is an extended climb - all of the other climbs are short. Route gets remote but is almost always picturesque. One part of the trail, on the top of the mountain, that has a section that tilts gently down has some fairly large rocks (golf ball to basketball size) and does not have a clean line so be carefull - a hardtail sucks in this section. For this loop, you have the option of coming in on (up) or going out on (down) Repack. Out of shape riders may be overwhelmed by the riding but fit riders will probably want to add more miles - possibly connecting over to Eldridge and getting in a Mt. Tam climb.

Recommended Route:
BoFax Road trailhead, then loop clockwise.

Other recommended trails in the same area:
Repack is a great climb to challenge your leg muscles and your lung capacity - try to stay on the "clean" line or you may have to walk a few yards and restart. DH'ers can bomb down when they are finished.